tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2433945320549143329.post5126773837634940813..comments2023-09-13T10:53:12.598-05:00Comments on Tullius est [et Tullius non est Cicero]: The 14th AmendmentAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15716893685688516529noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2433945320549143329.post-89680835379772590282015-03-16T11:06:23.600-05:002015-03-16T11:06:23.600-05:00re: 1st statement: Yes and no. Yes, when it comes...re: 1st statement: Yes and no. Yes, when it comes to (e.g.) getting a fair trial for matters having to do with life, liberty, and property. But I would say the rights are fairly narrow, given the constraints of what the 14th Amendment was about. No, in the sense that--if the 14th Amendment guaranteed as broad of a right as gay marriage--it would surely guarantee the right of women/gays/etc. to vote. But that it didn't seems clear from the existence of the 19th Amendment. <br /><br />re 2nd statement: I don't think so. (Some might think that some rights trump other rights; I tend to think that if I have a right to you're not doing A then it's absolute). But it's begging the question to say that there is a legal right in the Constitution to gay marriage rather than a right of the states to determine who can and cannot marry, or a right for people in their states to live in their state without gay marriage. <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15716893685688516529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2433945320549143329.post-63391414496224357152015-03-16T10:25:12.791-05:002015-03-16T10:25:12.791-05:001st statement: Are you arguing that the 14th Amend...1st statement: Are you arguing that the 14th Amendment doesn't account for the equality of women and men in the eyes of the law?<br /><br />2nd statement: Do you have a legally protected right to limit the legal rights of others?Justin Isenhourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17577039573014813677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2433945320549143329.post-32031066120757797402015-03-15T11:29:38.631-05:002015-03-15T11:29:38.631-05:00RIGHT. The equal PROTECTION clause guaranteed not...RIGHT. The equal PROTECTION clause guaranteed not only blacks equal protection under the law, but guaranteed a national right to gay sex and gay marriage...but not the vote for women. LOL.<br /><br />Why doesn't it guarantee a right to those who don't want gay marriage in their states? Do they get equal protection?<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15716893685688516529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2433945320549143329.post-46503020935276203432015-03-15T09:07:00.052-05:002015-03-15T09:07:00.052-05:00"nor deny to any person within its jurisdicti..."nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."<br /><br />Seems pretty clear cut. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.Justin Isenhourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17577039573014813677noreply@blogger.com